Plymouth records office is worst in country

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Friday, November 28, 2008
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THE public records office in Plymouth is 'probably the worst in the country', according to a leading Devon historian.

The city council has been given until 2013 to bring the Plymouth and West Devon Record Office in Clare Place up to scratch after the National Archives classified the building as unsuitable for storing records.

If the council couldn't find a suitable building for the city's priceless historic documents they risked being taken away to the National Records Office at Kew in London, said Dr Todd Gray, an honorary research fellow at Exeter University.

"I've worked in every public records office in England and Wales and I can't think of one worse than Plymouth's," Dr Gray said.

"This is a tragedy. The records office holds documents mirroring Plymouth's central role in world history from medieval times, through Francis Drake and the birth of the Atlantic trade."

During the Blitz in the Second World War the records were moved out of the city to save them from German bombers.

Dr Gray said the existing records office in Coxside was opened in 1982 – as a temporary measure. "We've been waiting for 26 years", he said. "The building is totally unsuitable and can only accommodate six researchers at a time."

In early 2007 the council had plans to create a History Centre to house the public records plus other collections such as the TSW Film Archive, Local Studies Library and the Barbican Association's South West Image Bank. However, Dr Gray said the council had been advised to withdraw a bid to the Heritage Lottery Fund.

Glenn Jordan, Cabinet member for healthy communities and leisure, said a History Centre was 'still the aspiration'.

"The original proposal was to put it into the basement at Windsor House, but we're looking for better premises", he said. "We have five years before the 2013 deadline. I'm confident that it will happen by then."

Local historian and Herald columnist Chris Robinson said: "It would be a complete tragedy if any Plymouth records were taken away from the city.

"While it may not be Plymouth City Council's number one priority, it ought to be high up on the list. If the records were moved out of the city, the council would still have to pay for them. They might as well sort it out."

Mr Robinson, who is writing a book about the history of Devonport, said: "The History Centre was going to be in Windsor House at Derriford, which would have been all right as a temporary solution, but that building isn't ideal itself; there's too much glass to allow the temperature to be kept constant, which you need for storing documents."

A council spokeswoman said: "We have until 2013 to make efforts to find a more suitable home. These efforts are already under way, and potential sites are being explored. We're working with National Archives to ensure records remain in Plymouth."

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    by Lin, Plymouth

    Wednesday, April 22 2009, 1:41PM

    “In response to Brooking, Ford, Plymouth, 28-Nov-2008 - I believe you can find the WMN collection of negatives and other fantastic photographic archives at the South West Image Bank, 32 Looe St, which is not local authority I'm pleased to say rather it is an initiative of the Plymouth Barbican Association a charitable body which has developed a successful reputation in heritage for well over 50 years now. Having visited on many occasions I am happy to confirm the staff at the image bank are extremely competent and as equally devoted as the staff at PWDRO. Not many people know about the image bank but then I suppose positive publicity isn't as appealing as negative publicity these days!”

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    by Minnie, Prince Rock

    Tuesday, December 02 2008, 8:15PM

    “If its so bad why weren't the woeful inadequate conditions exposed long ago?”

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    by Lizzie, Stonehouse

    Monday, December 01 2008, 7:31PM

    “For a start the record office isn't a library, as anyone who had actually visited one would know. Secondly, these records relate to you and your city. If you look at their website, you will see that they keep official records for the council, the coroner and the magistrates court, as well as other places. Maybe you might need a record of something you did one day ie if you wish to get married in church you will need a copy of your baptism; if you want to emigrate you need evidence that you attended school; the police may need to refer to a coroner's report; you may need to know how your house or block of flats is constructed. How do you prove any of this if you destroy it. The banks in Jamaica, and then their economy collapsed some years ago because they didn't bother to keep their records properly. And just for the record, yesterday was the past. Do you want to wipe your memory as well? I'm sure those that have lost theirs would give their house away to get their's back. The person that mentioned racism might want to go to their local library and look in a dictionary to find out what it means!”

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    by Sally, Mutley

    Sunday, November 30 2008, 1:39PM

    “It seems to me that the majority of the people who have commented on this story are living in the City with the moronic Council they deserve.
    Apologies to those that made a sensible comment”

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    by Julian, Pennycross

    Sunday, November 30 2008, 10:42AM

    “Hal and Mike, are you still taking the tablets? Are you on the right thread?”

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